Tomorrow, New Yorkers will vote for their next Governor. Will it be the incumbent Democrat Kathy Hochul, or Republican challenger Lee Zeldin?
The two candidates engaged in a debate on October 25. Here are excerpts from that debate:
Where my opponent just said she will not mandate COVID vaccines at this time, let me be clear to all of the parents who are out there. I will not mandate COVID vaccines for your kids ever. I don’t believe that there should be COVID vaccine mandates right now for our kids at SUNY and CUNY, in community colleges, and elsewhere. Where just over a year ago, a whole bunch of heroes were turning into zeros, tens of thousands of people, because of my opponent’s healthcare worker COVID vaccine [inaudible 00:58:50] put out of a job.
Susan Arbetter (58:50):
What about polio vaccine? Would you-
Lee Zeldin (58:51):
Can I just finish the point? I believe that mandate was wrong, and that everyone who has been fired to be offered their jobs back with back pay. There shouldn’t be any special celebrity COVID vaccine mandates, like what we saw for people who play for the Mets, or the Yankees, or the Nets. If you want to have a special celebrity exemption, how about the NYPD officers? FDNY, teachers, healthcare workers? I do not support COVID vaccine mandates in any way, shape, or form. You want to deal with the healthcare worker shortage upstate in hospitals, having services impacted? Well, then offer the people their jobs back. By the way, do it with back pay.
Susan Arbetter (59:26):
Mr. Zeldin, would you mandate a polio vaccine?
Lee Zeldin (59:31):
Right now, the position of this state is that there’s a polio emergency, and there’s not. I’m not proposing any new changes. Right now, there are vaccine mandates that are out there all across the board, on all different fronts. What I’d specifically say, is that the COVID vaccine mandate is different than the polio vaccine mandate.
The COVID vaccine changed the definition of a vaccine. You could just call it a COVID shot. It’s a form of treatment, but it doesn’t prevent you from getting it. The state hasn’t recognized natural immunity. Why not? It should. We could talk about all these other vaccines. But we’re talking about other vaccines? Actually, when you took it, people were not actually getting polio.
Kathy Hochul (01:00:12):
I’m not sure I understand that one either. But, you’ve been an election denier, a climate change denier. You and Donald Trump were the masterful COVID deniers. We are dealing with a real crisis, and the more people that get vaccinated, get those shots in arms. I would do it all over again, what I did last year, that mandate for healthcare workers. Because no one, after what we went through in this state, and the loss of life, and how people didn’t survive being in a nursing home, I said, our healthcare workers, when you walk into a doctor’s office, a hospital, or nursing home, you shouldn’t contract COVID from the person charged with taking care of you. It was a tough decision. We limited to healthcare workers. But, that is something I believe saved lives.
So, Kathy Hochul does not understand:
- The difference between injections that stop you from getting a disease (like polio vaccines) and ones that do not (like covid shots)
- That the definition of vaccine was quietly changed by the CDC to better conform to the reality that Covid shots do not stop infections
- What natural immunity is, although for years even the layperson understood this basic epidemiological concept (immunity to a disease gained post-exposure to that disease). “Natural immunity” was thrown under the bus during the vaccine rollout. But it has been brought forth from the shadows as it is coincidentally the basis for the recently invented concept called “immunity debt.” Immunity debt was invented in 2021 to help explain why, after millions of covid shots, people are sicker than ever.
- That it is entirely possible for vaccinated healthcare workers to infect patients because not only can they get Covid, often they are expected to come to work even if they are still testing positive for the disease.
There are quite a few things Kathy seems to “deny” knowing or understanding when it comes to Covid. In fact, I’d call her a real COVID DENIER…..right up there with Donald Trump. A man who so denied Covid, he ordered the creation a vaccine to eradicate it.
Yes. Kathy and Donald. Major Covid Deniers.